This internet censorship thing

[animeangel09189]

So suppostly there has been a internet censorship bill that might be past
You can read about it here http://inyxi.deviantart.com/journal/Sto ... -269515802

heres my thoughts on it though I honestly don't understand a word about it and when I first saw it I thought it was a stupid pop up joke I told my mom she said the same thing and that "They can't do that because it goes against freedom of speech. My views on it? I don't really understand it myself but from all the hoopla going on I can say for sure that this is being blown WAY out of proportion and that at the end of the day it is probably nothing to worry about as it either will not be as bad as people think or won't even be passed. How I first read it was anything violating copy right would be closed down and that scared me since pretty much ALL reviews use some copyrighted stuff in one way or another. But a friend of mine just said it was just a way to get rid of "all these overwhelming dodgy websites and adverts popping up" In other words all those broken links that lead to "adult" sites when all you wanted was dating advice or DIY

I have not been keeping up with the news lately but I would think this would make the front page right? as far as I've seen it hasn't yet. I think its up to you weather you are for or against I'm playing team Switzerland in this as I have no idea what it is exactly anyway I figured I'd share this however just so I can say I helped one way or another


So with that long long ramble out of the way my question are these
1. What do you think about this?

2. would this affect us taking pictures of our dolls? (any dolls BJD, Monster high, pullip, obitsu ect)

or is this just a internet scare?

Also I did post this on my DA and pullip fiction I'm not trying to spam I just want to get the word out and peoples thoughts on this

UPDATE: Just had another very very scary thought but it says that you could go to jail for simply sharing copyrighted stuff (IF this stupid thing goes though which it won't) but would that affect thing you would previusly have posted before it goes into effect? like sharing the latest hunger games trailer on blogger before could you still get arrested for that? mind you I'm only saying hypothetically of course I 95% sure this will NOT pass with so many people against it and even google, facebook and other big companies against it there is no way it will go though

[catshem]

The way I saw it explained in a video is that, it's goal is fine and understandable- to counteract copyright infringment- but the problem is that the wording is very open ended and companies can construe it to mean whatever they want it to mean. Well meaning websites can get crippled over one link to something copyrighted, and social networking sites like Facebook and Tumblr will have to start making harsh decisions on their users or else get shut down.

A bill meant to go after people that are essentially pirating copyrighted stuff can have disasterous affects on the rest of us who are just trying to have fun on the internet.

[Gift_in_Edge]

I find it down right silly. Just trying to explain my thoughts on it makes my brain hurt.

[OkamiKodomo]

You know, I had this whole long reply typed up for this one, but it makes me look ignorant, childish, and like a raging anarchist, which I would rather not think that I am any of the above. So I deleted it, and I'm just going to say that this is probably going nowhere, as the internet is world-wide, and there will always be a way around specific country-based legislation. The irony of course being, that the group this bill is supposedly targeting, is the group that will find the way around it.

[Linsilee]

Reading this got me to look into this some more and I found this link to an article that I thought some might want to read.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/amend-constitution-making-internet-unalienable-right/YJ3fXQcm

[magkelly]

That proposed law is very badly written and hopefully that will keep it from going anywhere. If it doesn't count on there being a move to another type of net not too much later. The "internet" isn't the only online out there. Other forms of it are being developed and they really can't stop people from using them and legislating the one type of internet won't cover them all.

When Napster got sued the people that wanted to regulate it crowed. They thought they had it made in the shade and that buy going after P2P they'd won the battle. Flash forward a year and no one was using that method of file transfer they'd all moved to Bit Torrent. Even now as they are trying to block torrent sites there are people creating new, encrypted programs for doing the very same thing. 2-3 years down the road Bit Torrent will be obsolete and IP tracking will be harder if not impossible for the RIAA and such to do. I'm not condoning P2P or file sharing, but realistically I understand that the horse is out of the stable and you can't just stop it all even though they might pass a million laws trying to prevent it.

There are people out there who want to regulate every file we upload from the video of someone's two year old singing and dancing to a song on the radio to yes, photos of the various dolls we all love to collect and play with. There are companies that take what we fans do and they just shrug it off and there are companies out there who have large legal teams devoted to keeping anything fan related of their products off the internet. To them any representation of their product or use of their characters other than the ones on the official site of via official channels is copyright infringement.

Personally I think it's a bad idea to go after the very people you want to sell to just for trying to show their love of what you do. People who download things like books, movies, music, they statistically tend to buy more than they download. People who would have never heard of certain things see them online and they go out and buy said product because of people posting things online. I've bought many a book by an author I'd never heard of because someone sent me an e-book and said "Hey you'd like this one..." I've started watching TV shows because of episodes I've seen on You Tube and places like it and yes, I've seen and purchased dolls and toys and other things related to them that are almost never ever found in my local stores because someone posted theirs online and I got to see why they liked them so much. I was a Barbie fan long before I ever saw my first 16" doll, but it's a fact that I might have never even gotten into collecting the 16" dolls if I had not seen people playing with dolls like that online. I've probably spent hundreds of dollars since then because I saw those dolls online and fell in love.

I don't think they can stop us really. They can legislate until they are blue in the face but the internet isn't just one country, or one set of laws. It's global and when you get down to it we're bigger than "they" are. We're the ones who are really in control. All they can do is pass limited laws that people will ultimately circumvent but they can't just make us all go back in time to the days before the internet. They can't just put us all down and force us all to "behave" it's way, way too late for that.

[animeangel09189]

Well I'm glad I posted this here whoop hot topic of the day lol
I'm thinking it over and yeah everyone has made good points I'm also thinking about it and if Mattel had issues with owners taking pictures of their monster high dolls and posting them online then they would have stopped it by now I think most if not all doll companies see the positive of people taking pictures of their dolls and posting them online as a way to get people to buy the product.

From what I understand of this bill its the Compines that say" ohh you stole our stuff" and get the site shut down but I don't think a compney as big as mattel or groove or parabox really care when we take and post pictures of the dolls so long as we buy from them or get others to buy from them as long as they are still making money and we are only sharing online and not selling the photos it shouldn't matter (in fact the moster high facebook page is full of doll photos that kids have taken of their dolls... and lots of stolen work XD)

Really I think this bill is just so people can shut down youtube

[victoriavictrix]

I am one of the creative types that this bill is SUPPOSED to protect.

This bill is a piece of hammered shit. All it will do is put lots of money in the hands of companies making record profits, make it hard, if not impossible, for the rest of us to get anything creative done and out there, and allow your ISP to censor whatever it wants or does not want you to see. Anyone remember how AOL restricted you from being able to see sites about gay rights or reproduction rights? Like that. Only more so. And they will. They did it back then, they will do it again. ANYTHING they do not want you to see. Like, oh, complaints about your ISP. Political sites they don't like. Anything.

And they can shut down YOUR access if they even suspect your are "pirating." Like, suppose you just bought a big software program and you want it now, so you download it. They see you downloaded a huge file, and THEY CUT YOU OFF. No explanations, they do NOT have to justify it, and you may either have to sue them or get a new ISP to get net access again. Think it can't happen? It has. A grad student this year downloaded a lot of research papers he had LEGAL access to and NEEDED and Comcast cut him off as a "pirate" and IIRC has not reinstated him despite the fact that he was LEGALLY allowed to download those files.

Yes, they CAN shut down you, or anyone else. Yes, they WILL. They have this year. They have done it before. They WILL do it.
It is HORRIBLE. Write your Congressperson and object to it now.

[delbelcoure]

...It is HORRIBLE. Write your Congressperson and object to it now.

Done.
Also, this has some links to helpful info
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alru/6354576683/
Susan

[myotishia]

So with that long long ramble out of the way my question are these
1. What do you think about this? I think if it could be implemented it would be awful and would slowly shut down the internet. But it's just not possible to police the internet that closely. I'm not saying it's not a serious issue and a serious threat but whoever thought up the idea is a fool.

2. would this affect us taking pictures of our dolls? (any dolls BJD, Monster high, pullip, obitsu ect)
Most likely yes, unless we wanted the site shut down. Many of the images would breach copyright .
or is this just a internet scare?I wish.