Vetinari wrote:
Christ - if I'd have been sat in last Fridays lecture I would have had his head... (I happened to be visiting friends in my undergrad uni who decided to do their postgrads there, and so was only catching up on a written transcript of it all this evening) I really want to give the poor lecturer a hug, it's not his fault the hall is home to one idiot who seemingly thinks it's his job to belittle him at every oppurtunity.
Linteia wrote:Or when we go out of our way to accommodate my husband's family who are vegan, and then they spend the whole meal demonizing us for the milk in our fridge. As a matter of fact, I do know exactly how they got that milk. I could take you to meet the cows if you want. They hate the fact we invalidate their arguments by being conscious eaters. I respect their decision, and I agree with a lot of it, but especially in my own house you need to respect me as well.
catshem wrote:Found a place that sells legit farm eggs and they are so pretty! Did you know a hen can lay a mint green colored egg? It's such a pretty carton of brown, white, and mint green eggs I almost don't want to eat them.
Vetinari wrote:This isn't a suck, and it's quite random, but it's a bit of a rant!
Friday morning lectures have devolved considerably since my undergrad degree...
The Friday morning lectures scheduled this term are hosted by an amiable if overly nervous doctor, who's style whilst pleasant is a little yawnworthy (not helped by the fact that thus far there has been no useful new information for me at all, but I can see how it should pick up in a couple of lectures time)
This isn't the main thing I've noticed though, whilst most people in the hall are tired (and likely hungover since it's 1st thing at the end of the week) there is 1 particular chap, who likes to "correct" the lecturer. "Actually I've read about this 2 years ago and it's..." or "Actually I watched a documentary about this and it was..." Very loudly, with no way for him to prove himself correct, and no way for the poor lecturer to refute his claims.
If he does it again I may ram a pencil up his anus so far he spits graphite. The lecturer is clearly nervous, most of the points interrupted are supposed to be semi-humorous/interesting facts not key to the lecture, and he keeps interrupting rudely!
The most recent one was the example of the fatigue cycles of the Comet Airliners. The lecturer mentioned off-hand that the Aluminium fatigued and so they failed, to which he replies "Actually I watched a documentary and it was the square windows" - No actually PISS OFF, you clearly know nothing and only read things you think sound impressive to belittle other people - The lecturer was actually correct, and yes it was also the fault of the square windows. The aluminium fatigued, they knew very little about alloys/aeronautics in those days - sometimes the wings fell off. This was exacerbated by the square windows, which allowed cracks to form in the fuselage, which then grew by S-N i.e. fatigue cycling, allowing the plane body to fail, and also helped the wings to come off...
Christ - if I'd have been sat in last Fridays lecture I would have had his head... (I happened to be visiting friends in my undergrad uni who decided to do their postgrads there, and so was only catching up on a written transcript of it all this evening) I really want to give the poor lecturer a hug, it's not his fault the hall is home to one idiot who seemingly thinks it's his job to belittle him at every oppurtunity.
Trethowan wrote:Linteia wrote:Or when we go out of our way to accommodate my husband's family who are vegan, and then they spend the whole meal demonizing us for the milk in our fridge. As a matter of fact, I do know exactly how they got that milk. I could take you to meet the cows if you want. They hate the fact we invalidate their arguments by being conscious eaters. I respect their decision, and I agree with a lot of it, but especially in my own house you need to respect me as well.
I hear ya. Used to have a vegetarian friend who was very critical of my choice to eat meat. Would be really judgmental and harsh about it. Finally I was like, look. I eat cows. You don't. I'm not trying to change your mind, and you're not going to change mine. Let's just agree to not discuss this anymore. What's more important here? Being right or being a friend.
So the end result is, in my opinion, the heart-motive behind it all. What's more important here, people and quality relationships or being right about *insert argument*. It's all the same whether its religion, not-religion, politics, food choices, owning pets, home-school or public school, etc etc etc. People don't want to love and respect others or be open-minded to other paths, they just want to win the argument, to be right, to dominate, or control. Or sometimes people are just so convinced that theirs is the moral choice they don't see past that. I see a lot of this: "I'm right therefore I'll shove it down your gullet and argue until I lose you as a friend."
Until we tend to the core of the problem the subsequent arguments will just keep cropping up like weeds. If friendship is a garden, then dissent, competitiveness, selfishness, and greed are the weeds that sprout discord. That blooms into fights, chokes out the good plants. We prune out the chaff with words of affirmation, peace, and unity. "I know you feel strongly about this topic and I can see that we differ on key points. Even though we see things differently I believe we can be friends. Since this is a hot topic for you and since neither of us is going to convince the other that their way is best, I think it wise if it's not discussed between us. I value your friendship and I don't want to see discord tear us apart. I believe we can agree to disagree and no longer discuss this particular topic."
Pretty words, hard to live up to. With self-control and holding one's tongue it's possible.
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