Udder Randomness

[victoriavictrix]

I wonder if mom argues with me just for the sake of trying to look smarter than me. I brought up that I couldn't find much italian folk dress, she argues that folk dress absolutely never ever existed in italy. she never saw any pictures of it in her childhood, and that food was the only defining part of italian culture. I pointed out that they had to be wearing something at the time and it prolly would be different place to place. nope. no folk dress there.

the worst part is... I'm the one that took the historical textile classes! you'd think she'd trust that much about me!

I'll just address Italian Folk dress. The reason you can't find it is because folk dress in Italy was all regional. Try searching on the names of the city states instead.

Sardinian Folk Dress:





Sicilain folk dress:





Folk dress of the Piemont region

[victoriavictrix]

You can also search by the names of folk dances in Italy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_folk_dance

Here, for example, is a Lachera group

[Lamia of the Dark]

So, uh..... -_-; some weird dreams this morning combined with some strange thoughts from a while ago led to some even weirder thoughts today.....

[I would say what it was, but it has something to do with my real name.]

My brain is a very odd place.

[knittnkitten]

yeah, I found a few websites with some information after I posted her that night. my main gripe is still her not trusting me there was something out there and claiming that there was no such thing as folk dress in italy.

[Kirahfaye]

So, my husband is a volunteer and attendee at JordonCon each year and as usual, they had their annual costumed dance. Last year a bar mitzvah group crashed it and Jeff found the little gray haired grandmas dancing with Trollocs and Black Ajahs amusing. This year TWO unrelated wedding parties crashed, brides, grooms, bridesmaids, groomsmen ... oh, and this guy (who no one recognized until he posted the photo on his FB page).


And no that's not my husband with Chris Mann, but even he didn't recognize Chris until it was re-posted on the JordonCon page.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151352341521721&set=a.92199856720.88241.23169911720&type=1&ref=nf

[DollyKim]

yeah, I found a few websites with some information after I posted her that night. my main gripe is still her not trusting me there was something out there and claiming that there was no such thing as folk dress in italy.

If I could I would smack the word "really?" out of my smother's vocabulary. I stopped telling her anything that wasn't important to daily life or our immediate situation because she'd usually respond with that. Perhaps they don't like it when you know something they don't because they perceive it as attacking their power.

I agree with VV on folk costumes being regional, we've only had Italy as one country for a short time, it was city states before. Germany and France also have regions of dress, like the UK. There is a beautiful book called World Colors Dolls and Dress that has color pictures of dolls in different folk costumes that were mostly made in the places they're dressed from.

[knittnkitten]

I wasn't talking about italian folk costume as being a national costume. I was talking about folk costume as a historic tradition of what was worn region from region that defined those people. I KNOW that its very regional, it was often a way of defining who was what from where. I took several semesters of italian language classes too. I was, at the time, finding it very hard to find any info about what was being worn outside of the city state royalty, which if I really wanted to I could just look at portraits of the time to get a feel of that. i was more curious about what was being worn at different time periods in the more rural areas of italy in general and not just in a particular part of what is now italy.

[DollyKim]

Note to self, don't worry about the led content of these. The Seal of Rassilon and TARDIS key came in, found them on Etsy. Now I have all the danglies for a Distaff Doctor chatelaine but I still need the central unit to hang them from. If I make it I need to figure out what it should look like.

[Trethowan]

Blue Jeans should be the folk dress of Tennessee.

[victoriavictrix]

I wasn't talking about italian folk costume as being a national costume. I was talking about folk costume as a historic tradition of what was worn region from region that defined those people. I KNOW that its very regional, it was often a way of defining who was what from where. I took several semesters of italian language classes too. I was, at the time, finding it very hard to find any info about what was being worn outside of the city state royalty, which if I really wanted to I could just look at portraits of the time to get a feel of that. i was more curious about what was being worn at different time periods in the more rural areas of italy in general and not just in a particular part of what is now italy.

You are best able to find peasant costume in illuminated Bibles and other illuminated manuscripts, in the backgrounds of religious paintings and frescos in churches, and in the backgrounds of tapestries. These were where you would find depictions of peasants and ordinary life. Since Jesus and the Apostles were not nobles or wealthy merchant-princes, but peasants, they were generally depicted against a background of peasant life. Absolutely the most useful are the paintings etc depicting St Frances and St Claire, since the two of them both denounced riches and lived the life of the poorest of peasants.